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Friday, January 18, 2013

LANCE APOLOGY ? A BUST !

Glad i slept through , as everything i have seen on the TV Networks and read in the various Blogs , confirm my decision ! So far , all i see , is a rehash of what was in the public forum , before i went to sleep last night . Can Lance really believe , that what he has revealed with Oprah , will encourage ANYONE to sympathise with him ? Yes , i know , this was the first of two instalments , but , was there a " teaser " to encourage people to return for the second instalment ?


., you can find out whether (and on what channel) you get Oprah’s network at the handy OWN channel finder:


With Fatcyclist tweeting , that he would do a " Blow by blow report " , last night , i was able to read through both his ongoing relevations and comments , as well as the comments by his cast of regular readers . For me , this was a useful tool , in helping me to understand the News Clips i saw on CNN World Sport , BBC World News and Sky News . Thanks to Fatty , i feel as though , imissed NOTHING !

http://www.fatcyclist.com/2013/01/17/hey-lets-watch-some-oprah-together-tonight/comment-page-2/#comment-581718

Sponsors are important , Sport needs them to survive , yet most say that OWN's sponsors , shown during this " Hugely Publicised Event " , were second tier Sponsors ! This alone , says a lot , about what Sponsors think , about what Lance now represents for Sponsors ! With the lack of relevations of Co-conspirators , Lance demonstrated his Contempt for those viewing . Even Non Cycling Sport viewers realise , that the Racers have support staff ! With so many Racers revealing their " misdeeds " at the USADA inquiry , people are aware , that they were supplied with Product . Saying Lance was their Supplier caused ALL to expect , that Lance would reveal those who were Upstream in the Supply Chain . He did not duck into a pharmacy and ask them to pass across the counter , the PEDs used by the team , did he ?

Many people have tweeted their opinions on Lance , most were disappointed with the interview , for a variety of reasons :


"Was it possible to win without doping?" Armstrong: "I didn't invent the culture, but I didn't try to stop the culture."  disgrace

  1. The more I think about Betsy, the more sympathy I feel for her. She's waited almost ten years to hear him say she didn't lie and he refuses.
  2. When he said he was behaving like a jerk during those years, I thought 'Lance, I could have told you that back then.'
The more I think about the interview, the more conscious I become of the evasions and non-answers. His truth will come dropping slowly.


 : Not sure what your emotions are today Walshy but as I haven't seen you for a while your work is a triumph of perseverance.

Tomorrow's hour better be about how he smeared 


 "  The test of Armstrong’s newly-found disgust of his bullying and cheating behaviour will come when or if he is prepared to face journalists with a modicum of reporting integrity. Armstrong needs to reveal the facts of his behaviour and not some confected inner feelings of supposed guilt.
He can start paying journalists like David Walsh a monetary compensation of at least double what he brazenly took from The Sunday Times, together with whatever token apology he care to make.
This is a case where money – Armstrong’s money – will speak more loudly than any Oprah contrived confession."
Lance has shown his ability to Act , in a way that defeated most Journalists . This Oprah Event , seems to follow the same pattern . I for one will not lose sleep tonight , waiting on relevations , that i am more certain , will not be forthcoming .
In " Parrabuddy.blogspot " , yesterday , i addressed a letter to Jacques Rogge , outlining many issues , of which i am sure , he is already aware ! Had Lance chosen to reveal some of his knowledge , relating to these people and their activities , then there might be reason , to believe that his confessions , were relevant ! As of now , there is nothing , other than confirmation , of the speculation that the Cycling circles have entertained since 1999 ! 

Lance , during the Interview , you said this to Oprah , who knew no better :

  "  My ruthless desire to win at all costs served me well on the bike but the level it went to, for whatever reason, is a flaw. That desire, that attitude, that arrogance."

Those like myself , and of course others that follow the events in which you participated , know what Mike Ashenden , has reported in a variety of Articles and venues ! Link to just one , here :

  "  http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/must-read-ashenden-says-armstrong-showed-signs-of-blood-doping-in-2009-tour-de-france_256351

With this report in the Public Domain , it is very easy to contradict , the following statement , you made to Oprah , in relation to YOUR Alleged Doping activities , after your return to competition in 2009  :

"That's the only thing in that whole Usada report that really upset me,"

No doubt , this is an area that you need to address , when under OATH ! 
Racers such as Christophe Bassoon ( DNF the 1999 Le Tour after Harrassment ) , " Simeone ( excluded from the " Giro d'Italia , when Italian National Champ ) and others , have been defrauded of their opportunities . Journalists of the Calibre of David Walsh & Paul Kimmage , have been sued and bullied ! Ladies such as Emma O'Reilly & Betsy Andreu , have had their names dragged through the Mud ! Friends such as Frankie Andreu have been discarded .
ALL FOR WHAT ? To preserve a facade of LIES ! 
LANCE , you have made your Family and Friends even more ASHAMED of you , than they were , before you appeared on Oprah's show !

Even the Women Racers have an opinion on Lance ! With her retirement this week , Nicole Cooke released a Statement , regarding her Career . She was plain speaking about a few matters , including her views about CHEATS ! Here are some of her thoughts :
 This  section is telling :
 "  Jeanson states, like all the others, she is “repentant” and all that is behind her. All these "born again" champions of a clean sport. They could be more accurately described as criminals who stole other's livelihoods who are only ever genuinely sorry about one thing - they are very sorry they were caught."

Even Lance gets a mention :
 "   When Lance “cries” on Oprah later this week and she passes him a tissue, spare a thought for all of those genuine people who walked away with no reward – just shattered dreams. Each one of them is worth a thousand Lances."

Well Lance , you were responsible for many heartbreaks , how do you feel about being " Dumped on ",  now , by a CHAMPION Female Racer ?

http://www.nicolecooke.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=18
UNLESS you appear before the " UCIIC Inquiry ", and reveal , ALL those associated with provision of , and financing of the  PED products , that YOU and the Teams used since 1993 , there is NO POINT in your appearing in Public  EVER AGAIN !
Paul Kimmage tweeted that he has booked you an Airline  seat to that " UCIIC Inquiry " , you can surely , be humble enough to accept the " Tourist Class seat " provided ?
Reveal your knowledge of UCI , Tailwind and Sponsors activities , in relation to Financing , PED Supply and other nefarious activities , and THEN , and ONLY then , can you venture onto the path to Redemption .

USADA have asked you to repeat UNDER OATH , your knowledge of ALL that you have revealed in the Show , as well as MORE !

 Travis Tygart is quoted here :    "If he's sincere in his desire to correct past mistakes, he will testify under oath about the full extent of his doping activities,"  ALSO  "Lance Armstrong finally acknowledged that his cycling career was built on a powerful combination of doping and deceit," ALSO "His admission that he doped throughout his career is a small step in the right direction."

John Fahey of WADA , has this to say :  "He was wrong, he cheated and there was no excuse for what he did," said the Wada chief. "If he was looking for redemption, he didn't succeed in getting that."
ALSO   "My feeling after watching the interview is that he indicated that he probably would not have got caught if he hadn't returned to the sport," he added.
Continue reading the main story
“He cheated and there was no excuse for what he did. If he was looking for redemption, he didn't succeed in getting that”
John FaheyPresident, World Anti-Doping Agency
"He didn't name names, he didn't say who supplied him, what officials were involved."
Pat Mc Quaid , in my opinion , breathing a sigh of relief said :  "Armstrong has confirmed there was no collusion or conspiracy between the UCI and Lance Armstrong. There were no positive tests which were covered up and he has confirmed that the donations made to the UCI were to assist in the fight against doping.
"Finally, we note that Lance Armstrong expressed a wish to participate in a truth and reconciliation process, which we would welcome."
LiveSTRONG , had this to say :  
"We at the Livestrong Foundation are disappointed by the news that Lance Armstrong misled people during and after his cycling career, including us," and   "Even in the wake of our disappointment, we also express our gratitude to Lance as a survivor for the drive, devotion and spirit he brought to serving cancer patients and the entire cancer community."

Oprah's Show , instalment 1 , was a bust , lets hope , those that visit instalment 2 , are not wasting their valuable time ! Not the only one thinking this either !

Sounds like all the Europeans who stayed up so late to watch Oprah were treated to a repeat episode from the past


FOOL ME once, shame on YOU , Fool me Twice , SHAME ON ME !

NB Links to Narrative of the Interview :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21065539     Interview

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21072339     USADA request



Saturday, October 13, 2012

Fat Cyclist on LiveSTRONG & Lance


Those of you that follow my blogs will know that I read and recommend “ Fatcyclist.com “ principally because of the Fund Raising efforts that benefit a number of Charities .  Mostly these fun Fundraisers are related to fighting Cancer and in the recent times have diversified , but in the past the emphasis was on Live Strong !

This week the USADA released it’s report on Lance Armstrong and so as he has done in the past Fatty released his take on the situation :

http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/10/11/reasoning-on-the-reasoned-decision/comment-page-3/#comment-577164

There have been a variety of comments and I have selected a few for those that do not have time to read his blog post in full ! Personally I think the effort would be worth making as you will only see those that struck a chord with me .


104 Comments »

Comment by Paul Guyot | 10.11.2012 | 11:18 am

Once again, you’ve done it better than any so-called journalists at ESPN, Bicycling, VeloNews, or anywhere else.
I stand with you, LiveStrong, and the fight against cancer, now and always.


Comment by SENichols | 10.11.2012 | 11:31 am
I will always support lance and also the other causes you support because it it the right thing to do.
As far as Lance and the USADA, there are a few things we need to keep in mind. One, he had to dope, the competition did, they just weren’t as good at it. As with all aspects of cycling, Lance wanted to be the best. Best bike, best training, best eating regime and naturally best doping. If you take away his Jerseys, who do you give it to? You can’t retractively test all the guys who now get placings.
What bothers me most is this is the way the evidence was gathered and presented. Virtually all of what we see was testimony from active or recently active riders who were given substantial accomodations in return for their testimony. Hence, it is by definition tainted. The other really bad thing is we see ONLY what the USADA wants us to see. We have no idea what testimony they are NOT using. We know they have to have talked with virtually everyone Lance rode with in the last 25 years. It is certainly a number far higher than 25. What did all the other people say. Selective testimony is dishonest and misleading.
The last point is this. Why do we have drug testing and statutes of limitations if anecdotal(i.e. non factual) testimony is now valued more and used to try and convict Lance. Not a great idea.
Did he dope. Yes. Has USADA met even the thinest burden of legal proof that would be required in a court of law.


Comment by Flahute | 10.11.2012 | 12:03 pm
Fatty — I stopped donating money to LiveStrong a long time ago … but I believe in your mantra of doing good things. For this reason, my cancer-related donation dollars have been directed to the Huntsman Cancer Foundation for the past few years, primarily because a) 100% of the money donated goes directly to research to find a cure (rather than trying to raise awareness through marketing), and b) most, if not all, ofmy dollars stay in my community (i.e. Utah).
Huntsman’s overhead & expenses are covered by their endowment from the Huntsman family, so donations are not used for anything other than research. This is my definition of doing good things.
I hope that you will encourage your other readers to look at supporting local causes as well as national organizations.
I love Huntsman’s. it’s on my list of organizations to support in ‘13. – FC



Comment by Tony B | 10.11.2012 | 12:26 pm
Following professional cycling and it’s antics are a sideline. The real riding is happening whenever the regular guy or girl gets out on the road or trail, either solo or in a group and justs enjoys the sport for the sake of its self.
Personally, I am dissappointed at the continued level of denial, given my original belief in the overcoming of great obstacles.
Unfortunately, the next individual who will rise above shall be met with a greater skepticism that the last.


Comment by Rich | 10.11.2012 | 1:32 pm
I agree with the heart of your post. But it’s stuck with me for a while now…
1 quick(ish)question (or two):
Don’t you think your friend, Lance, owes his former friends a lot of apologies? Doesn’t the fact that he was a manipulative, bullying, unrepentent, cheating liar to his FRIENDS worry you at all about his character? Shouldn’t the important voices in cycling (you are one btw) demand that he come clean and apologize to those whose carreers were ruined by his actions?
His work with cancer is awesome, and you wrote a classy response, and no one is below forgiveness…
But he hasn’t even asked for forgiveness and, even worse, he continues to spew vitriol at those whom he bullied…
Would you please mention to your friend that he owes a lot of people an apology (Zabriskie’s testimony was heartbreaking)?
I hope that doesn’t sound snarky. It’s not meant that way.
Thanks for all the good you do for so many.

For myself, I feel better when I apologize to others for having wronged them. Sometimes it helps the person I’ve wronged; sometimes it doesn’t. I’m pretty sure, though, that any time someone has gone to me and demanded I apologize to someone else, I have either refused to apologize or have offered an insincere apology. In other words, telling anyone to apologize doesn’t help. If the need to apologize doesn’t come from within, the words “I’m sorry” don’t mean much. – FC



Comment by Terry | 10.11.2012 | 2:27 pm
I must be a lot more cynical than most, because I have always thought the odds of a clean rider decimating a field chock full of admitted dopers were astronomically tiny. Possible, I’m sure, but so highly improbable.
I can understand the pressure in the sport to cheat. I can imagine how hard it would be to resist doing what everyone else is doing, to be the best at the sport you love. I can easily believe that Lance wants to destroy cancer as much as he wanted to destroy his competitors, and is truly genuine in his efforts to help cancer victims. The part I have trouble with is this: if Lance really believes his mission is to fight cancer, and if there is any reasonable chance that his use of HGH/testosterone/steroids pre-1998 contributed to the growth or severity of his cancer, then why doesn’t he feel compelled to disclose this? To warn kids to stay away from the stuff, because look what happened to me? I don’t believe there is research that directly links steriods to testicular cancer like the ones that exist for prostate cancer, but isn’t it worth mentioning as a real risk? I think if he is really as committed to serving the cancer community as he says, he would feel obligated to speak to this in some manner.
Here’s what I tell my kids when they ask about the “cheaters”: even good people make bad decisions. It’s how you make up for (and learn from) those bad decisions that really matter.




Comment by aussie kev | 10.11.2012 | 2:29 pm
Its a sad sad day for cyling – its big george that upset me most, but i hope it will make cycling a safer place for the juniors i coach. i can only hope !!!
i donated to livestrong last night, as you say its a fantastic organisation so
ALLEZ LIVESTRONG !!



Comment by Pete McPhedran | 10.11.2012 | 3:30 pm
I like your post Fatty, I don’t 100% agree with you, but that’s what’s great about this forum and our little Internet thingy, I can do that and I don’t have to make you wrong about your position. I respect you and I respect your position. Heck, I respect that you have a position.
As for what to do with the jerseys, medals, trophies, etc… Here’s my $0.02 CDN:
1. Leave the standings as they are, the dreaded “*” should be beside all names that are admitted or in the case of Lance, found guilty in absence or whatever it is called. The shame of the act shouldn’t be erased, but it can not, as you said, be determined with any acceptable measure of accuracy who did in fact win honestly.
2. Indicate that no jersey/winner was recorded for those years
3. All prize monies awarded should be voluntarily returned to the organization that made the award. It would be good if they then awarded the money to a charity of their choice.
4. It should be recorded that George Hincapie rode in 17 Tours, it should also be indicated that he had doped for X of them. He still rode them, just not honestly.
If the UCI wants to regain a fan base, they need to get serious about doping. There needs to be a house clearing at the UCI as well. I read the 200+ pages, there is strong evidence of wrong doing and other improprieties within the UCI.
As for monies paid to athletes, whether for salaries, bonuses or “sponsorship”, I think the US courts (and maybe others too) will be the final say in that.
As for LiveStrong, I have donated in the past, I hope they do not crash and burn, it sounds like they have done and will continue to do great things given the opportunity, but my donations will go to other cancer charities in the future.
I feel for each of these athletes, doctors and other witnesses, many lives have been made miserable, many are going to start getting miserable. I hope they all can pick themselves up and DO GOOD from now on.
I’m a cycling fan and hope the sport can turn itself around.
–Pete



Comment by nate | 10.11.2012 | 3:31 pm
I’ve been a (silent) reader of your blog from some of the earliest days and have always admired your lighthearted approach and consistent focus on open-mindedness and support for good causes. For the most part, I appreciate your response to the USADA reasoned decision — particularly the reminder to those disillusioned with LiveStrong that there are other causes worth supporting in the fight against cancer.
I also appreciate your openness to considering the implications of the USADA case, given your understandable affinity for LiveStrong and the people involved. But it also made me hopeful that you might offer a bit more reflection than just the assertion that it doesn’t much matter. The issue of the USADA case is not just that Lance doped, or that Bruyneel facilitated, but that the two orchestrated a sophisticated team-wide doping program and intensely pressured previously-clean cyclists into doping, while aggressively bullying those who raised suspicions. Those aspects are far more troubling, to me at least, than whether or not Lance used PEDs.
You’ve interacted with Lance and Johan extensively; been the direct beneficiary of their generosity on a number of occasions; and had the opportunity to grow the blog in small part due to their support of your contests and donations. I certainly can’t complain about any of these things. But casting them in a uniformly positive light burnished their images and gave ammunition to those who would rubbish Lance skeptics. So given the personal connection, I have to imagine that your feelings on the issue and the implications of the USADA case extend a bit beyond those you expressed in the post — anything you feel worth discussing? Anything we should take away from it?



Comment by Meredith S | 10.11.2012 | 4:53 pm
Fatty, I appreciate your perspective and also agree with it mostly. I don’t agree with USADA’s tactics in general and question their authority, I want to leave the past in the past, and I do believe Livestrong has done a lot of good that will hopefully continue. I just can’t get past what appears to be systematic bullying by Lance, though. Last year at the US Pro Challenge I couldn’t figure out why Lance only showed up once during the race in Aspen when he was effectively the father of the race. This year, he wasn’t seen at all, even in Aspen, and he was home in Aspen during the race week according to his Tweets. We followed the race the whole week around Colorado. If Lance had left a positive legacy with the teams and current cyclists, I feel like he would have been at that event. I know when cyclists are interviewed they are tired about doping, but they almost all seem to shut down at the mention of Lance’s name. It has been a long while since I have heard a professional cyclist say anything positive or interact with him on Twitter like many of the other cyclists seem to do with one another. There are be so many written testimonies of him treating people he has worked with in the past poorly. The sad truth is I’m not sure how many friends he still has in the world of professional cycling. I’ll reuse your statement with the world bully instead of doper: “I hate writing ‘Lance is a bully,’ but to continue presuming innocence now flies in the face of my personal philosophy every bit as much as presuming guilt prematurely does.” Either there are a lot of people exaggerating and lying or the accounts of bullying are true. That makes it hard to continue supporting the man. It makes sad. I wanted to believe. Now I have to figure out what to do with that giant Lance poster in my garage…



Comment by Irnldy | 10.11.2012 | 6:53 pm
I have read all the testimonies from the witnesses. Before I just thought LA a cheat. Now I see the bullying, the blackmailing, the goon tactics. I can’t separate Lance the rider from the champion for cancer. I just can’t. You said that Susan was treated and treated wonderfully by Huntsman, and I hereby challenge that you ask us to fundraise directly for Susan’s hospital. Furthermore, I am strongly inclined to donate towards the Princess Margaret Hospital in Toronto for their ground breaking research programs. I believe we all can do good, and we can avoid those we disagree with in the process. I appreciate that you are now providing options for us to donate to other than Livestrong or Johan’s World Bicycle Relief. The truth is, if I could donate to WBR without it going through Johan, I would still actively choose to do so. So please Fatty, continue to bring us wonderful fundraisers and give us options as to where our many can be allocated. I believe I am the first to challenge all to a Huntsman fundraiser – perhaps the next 100 miles to nowhere? I will be the first to sign up.
Best,
Irnldy.



Comment by Barton | 10.12.2012 | 6:50 am
I typed in your blog address, then went to fill up the tea mug as I unthaw from the ride to work. I have a very large computer screen at work. I come around the corner, take a sip of tea, see your (very large, and very frightening) photo at 200% actual size and the tea gets spit across the desk top. Honestly funny as I look back on it (and now that the photo has scrolled past). Thanks for that morning fun (not sarcastic, honestly serious).
I have been (stupidly) reading a lot of the comment sections on other articles. It’s amazing to me what people say (including some saying LA didn’t have cancer, and came up with that as an excuse to use masking agents. wtf?).
I appreciate your comments most sincerely. Now that we have the report, I am hoping the sport aspect of cycling can resume (better than before, cleaner than before, more honest than before) and move forward. I think LiveSTRONG will survive, and the work they do will continue.



Comment by Skippydetour | 10.13.2012 | 5:31 am
Disappointed to see that my comments are getting the ” Duplicate Comment message when i ONLY PRESS ONCE
Really disappointed to see the news that Johan Bruyneel finished with Team Radio Shack today !
Both Lance & Johan knew what they were doing in Cycling , was ” Borderline at best ” , and my thinking is that this is why they worked so hard in the charities that they set going ! Perhaps naive of me to think this way ! People on the edge , do try to give back to their community do they not ?
LiveSTRONG is deliberately attacked by the naysayers due to the ” Lance Envy ” factor BUT in doing this these people defeat themselves as ” Any Publicity , is Good Publicity “!
Whether or not Lance remains in the ” LiveSTRONG Spotlight ” during the next months remains to be seen , personally i think that LiveSTRONG will be able to continue regardless . THose people working in the organisation , do good work as they are ably led and well motivated .
Anyone can Google Info on any subject , but i bet Google does no follow up or hand holding ? This is why LiveSTRONG is so necessary and even if it was 10X larger , there would still be people in need of that help !
Regarding all those Cycle Racers that stopped doping in 2006 , give it a rest Guys , no one believes that fairy tale ! You were Adults when you stepped across the line ! You are lucky that ALL the bad bags of blood that those shifty Docs were handing out to you did no more than cause you temporary discomfort , you will know many Racers like Jiminez , who woke up dead through sloppy doping practices !
Emma O’Reilly & Betty Andreu need to be congratulated for their fortitude over the years and i am sure they would enjoy helping Charities with the benefits likely to be going to them .
Spare some cash for the ” Paul Kimmage Defence Fund ” since he was at the forefront of the battle against ” Doping “!
Only an ” Amnesty for ALL SPORT ” will bring this sorry mess to an end !
Fatty , you together with your 100’s & 1000’s of readers can persuade the IOC & WADA to call for this ” AMNESTY in ALL SPORTS “, so that the Youth of today will avoid the pitfalls , those that held up their hands this week , willingly jumped into !



LiveSTRONG will continue to grow regardless of any involvement of Lance in the future ! Those working within that organisation are doing a good job for those in need of their assistance .

Should it be that Lance only set up LiveSTRONG to cover up his character defects , then some good things will have come of this ,  if he set it up to help others , then he is to be admired , regardless of the other side of his personal life !








Thursday, June 14, 2012

LANCE ARMSTRONG again ?

Round and around we go , where this story will end , nobody knows !

Will post my comments to various blogsites here :

Charles Pelkey writes a balanced view of the current issues and here is his site :

http://redkiteprayer.com/2012/06/the-explainer-just-when-i-thought-i-was-out-they-pull-me-back-in/comment-page-1/#comment-345604

then my comment :

  "  EVERY US Cycle Racer must be " pissed " about their " Annual Licence Fees " being used by " USADA & others " to persue " Ancient History "!
An unknown . "tyrant spelt tygart " is grandstanding for whose benefit ?
Lance has won and placed in several Triathlons so we aLL know he has the abilities he has claimed over the years .
Jealousy comes in many forms and if i was Lance i would walk away and ignore these poor specimens of humanity .
My blog post relates the news about this latest traversy of justice but personally i wish he would " Sue the ass off all involved " , it would win him Millions , though i doubt it would contribute to his wellbeing as a person !
Lance you are a role model for many , so ignore the hate and vilification coming your way ! As a service to those accusers , send them a copy of " IF " that poem that many use to calm the outrages they suffer in their lives ! "

Went onto the Mushroomers thread on this subject at cyclingnews with this comment :


  "  As i stated in " Skippyblogging " , if i were Lance i would send ALL his accusers a copy of " IF "!

Having won a 70.3 and podiumed several times there is nothing more to prove !
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=902815#post902815

  "  Lance walk away , head held high ! Certainly you are head and shoulders above the accusers and regardless of what you do , there will always be those " mushrooms " that reek of jealousy ! "


Received this reply amongst many :

 "  Yeah, I love that poem!

  "  IF you can keep your red blood cell count high when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on three weeks of racing,
If you can trust your hemotologist when all in The Clinic doubt you,
But scorn and demean them for their doubting too;
If you can storm up an HC col and not be tired,
Or lie about your friends' testimony, what's one more lie?
Or being hated, don't give way to haters,
And yet don't show compassion, nor kindness:
If you can dream big, and believe in miracles;
If you like your credibility, even though you have none;
If you can meet with Ferrari and Bruyneel
And treat those two cheats just the same;
If you can bear to hear your doctor
retroactively produce a TUE;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one night of hookers and blow,
And test positive for PED's,
And never breathe a word about your payment to the UCI;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To accept testosterone, HGH, and EPO,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except these drugs and an extra litre of blood which says to them: 'Chaarge!'

If you can talk to the crowds in Paris and keep a straight face,
' Or ride up mountains with domestiques holding a GC man's pace,
if neither foes nor so-called friends can stand you,
If all men work for you, but none deserve your respect;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of lying to cancer patients,
Yours is a special kind of evil,
And - which is more - you'll be a cheating, lying, disgraced so-called 7 time Tour de France winner, my son!

This guy must have spent the last generation dreaming this up !

FATCYCLIST.com spends a lot of time raising monies for a variety of causes , including LiveSTRONG and World Bike Relief . With these events " Fatty " has become friendly with LANCE and Johan Bruyneel and holds them in high esteem . In Fatty's most recent blog he posted the following Quote : " By their Fruits you will know them " ( matthew 7:16 ) ! Very appropriate since both these Guys have done Astonishing Work for others whilst busy with their " Day Job "!

My Comment to " Fatcyclist.com ":


  "  My 100MON  this year ,was on L'Alpe d'Huez , once again ,with the Dutch Cancer Fundraiser ! This year on both the Wednesday & Thursday and i exceeded my own expectations simply because i was inspired and motivated by a GREAT CYCLIST !
 I was there in 2005 when Lance won the ITT race up this climb  , even caused the " Clown " that pushed him to be detained by the Gendarmerie ! Lance chose not to press charges .
 Even more to the point , whilst Fatty rode as a guest with Lance and the Team , i on so many occasions over the years , have ridden uninvited , alongside Lance . Never once did he complain and in fact deflected team mates who would have acted on his behalf . Always found him gracious towards others when time allowed BUT time management was one of his secrets !

Meticulous in the extreme , he was known as " Mr Millimetre " since he was always looking for improvements in every aspect of his Equipment , Training and Team ! One hard task Master that would not accept a lower standard than 110% !
 Little wonder that there are those that fell by the way side since they were unable to keep pace . We all think we are better than we are , some take it badly , others recognise their short comings .

 Tall Poppy syndrome is alive and well throughout the world BUT particularly in SPORT ! Nobody likes to come in second and there are so many out there that feel " Short Cuts " are the way to go !WRONG !

Currently "The Fox " guarding the " Hen House " seems to be that ALL SPORT suffers from and until there is a " Moratorium " when ALL past and present Athletes can come out of the closet we will continue to see " finger pointing " !

Lance has returned to Triathlon and has succeeded through effort and training in gaining the top step of the Podium , being not the best runner in the world , he has trained hard for his success >

To those doubting him " SHAME ON YOU " , to those in the Government Agencies " WHAT DO YOU DO TO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD "?

To those racing against him " WHAT IS YOUR TRAINING REGIME "? Try harder and believe in your selves !

As regards Lance's Past , who gives a fig , as regards his work with LiveSTRONG , do not let the naysayers interrupt the GOOD WORKS there !

LiveSTRONG works will be remembered long after the " Le Tour " fades into obscurity !

Fatty as usual you post from the heart and the road you have chosen will not sit well with those that i call " Mushrooms "!  "

39 Stone Cyclist has contributed to Fatcyclist on several occasions and i have added the above comment to his blog post on the  " USADA star chamber , travesty of Justice " !